Ralphs Ends 2X Coupons, Changes Loyalty Program

COMPTON, Calif. — Ralphs Grocery Co. here, a division of Cincinnati-based Kroger Co., said in a mailer to customers that it will stop doubling the value of manufacturer coupons as of April 1.

Ralphs was the first Southern California chain more than 20 years ago to double coupon values. However, after April 1, it said it would accept coupons only at face value.

The company also said that after April 1, all points accumulated on the chain's Rewards card would be good only for fuel discounts at Ralphs fuel centers and participating Shell locations but would no longer be used to award quarterly cash certificates that could be used at the checkstand.

Under the new program, customers will get one fuel point for every $1 spent, with 100 points equal to a 10-cents per gallon discount; customers will also receive double fuel points for every $1 spent on a gift card; five fuel points for each reusable bag used, up to 10 bags, on every shopping trip; and 50 fuel points for every eligible prescription filled at a Ralphs store.

Customers can still receive quarterly cash certificates based on purchases if they apply for a Ralphs Rewards-Plus Visa; those who are approved for the Visa cards will receive $20 in free groceries, the company said.

According to the announcement, "Ralphs Rewards customers will receive final quarterly Rewards certificates on, or soon after, May 1. All unused Rewards dollars will expire July 31. You will continue to receive Rewards certificates for points earned with your Ralphs Rewards-Plus Visa card and Ralphs Rewards-Plus prepaid Visa card."

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Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 21, 2012

It's all about the bottom line and keeping shareholders happy. There are other places people can shop such as the 99 cents only stores, Dollar Tree, Big Lots, etc.

Ralphs lost me as a customer.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 22, 2012

This is just very wrong with what you are doing. I do not ue shell gas and I never will. I have been shopping with Ralphs from the time you have opened here in Port Hueneme and this is just wrong. I will not get your visa card for two reasons, 1. your apr on the card is just way to high and 2. I do not use credit cards for shopping. If I do not have cash I do not need to use a card. In this day and time it is bettr for people to be able to buy food not gas. If we have to we can use the bus to go to work to make the money so we can buy food it is cheaper in the long run. What are you going to do for us shoppers that do not want this gas program? Me myself if you can not offer something better than to buy gas I will have to consider moving my buiness to another company.

Very upset customer

Randy Long (not verified)
on Mar 22, 2012

I guess, this is why I started shopping at Winco.....bye, bye..Ralph's

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 22, 2012

guess I have no reason to shop at ralphs at anymore shell gas cost way more than costco gas does even with a discount lol..wonder how many customers they will lose now.,

AnonymousDan Gordon (not verified)
on Mar 22, 2012

They should fire the person who stormed this very bad decision, we have been "checking out" (no pun ) the local Jon's and a more ethnic Vallarta market is opening soon in my town...I buy most of my meat and bulk items at Cosco because they shut down a very nice local Ralph's...I thought they have smart people in Ohio, maybe they are from Kentucky...lol
You have my e-mail now, show som respect, not stupidity!
Dan Gordon
Simi Valley , Ca.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 22, 2012

There's no reason to shop at Ralph's now. Been shopping there for years and it went downhill when Kroger took over. Rewards certificates and their Deli selection (Boarshead) are the only reason I stayed. They took away the rewards certificate and I found a new place to get the Deli products so I'm out of there.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 22, 2012

The Ralphs Squirrels are out of their cages...NICELY PLAYED....Now........just wait for YOUR rewards, Ralphs

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 23, 2012

I am a loyal Ralph's customer and always rave about their program. I spend at least 100 bucks a week at Ralph's. I am so disappointed in this change. I do not want a discount on gas and this program seems difficult to follow. I don't even know where the nearest shell is and their gas is normally more expensive so ten cents isn't yonna make it much better. I hope they see that this is a big mistake and change it back. I'm going to start shopping someone else, like target that has been giving you gift card lately for grocery shopping with them. So sad cause I really loved my Ralph's but this is a poor move.

AngryCalGuy (not verified)
on Mar 23, 2012

Ralphs has been losing me as a customer for months now to Vons. Vons has better prices and still offers quality food and services. Double coupons is a great way to get people into your stores. Gas discounts also available at Vons and their gas stations have better prices too! Bye-bye Ralphs.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 23, 2012

Well, that's the final nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned. It's bad enough that Ralph's prices are outrageously high on even the basics but to eliminate the only reason I can afford to shop there...I'm done, jack....I'm well and truly done.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 23, 2012

BYE BYE RALPHS!!! This 20 year customer is not interested in gas discounts at shell. There is not even a shell gas station within 10 miles of my house. I do not want your visa card or your pre paid visa card. Your new program is communism. My family and I will now shop at Vons where they still double coupons. Remember the mistake Vons made when they stopped doubling coupons? Did not take long until they reinstated the program. If your so proud of the new rewards program why are you not advertising the details? Good luck Ralphs, you are going to need it.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 25, 2012

I just went to Ralphs and spent $115.00 on $254.00 of groceries; took me an hour or so prep time and 1 1/2 at the store - this is how i shop and have for years. It always helped when I had all the kids at home but now I go about once a month and shop primarily at Sams/Stater Bros due to the prices. I never buy meat there it absolutely stinks unless it's a prepackaged brand. I have shopped there for 20 years as some of the others and am very sad about the news. I will compare their prices as i always do and shop the sales and take in a basket rather than a shopping cart if i'm out for a few items!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 26, 2012

I took am finished shopping at Ralphs now because of this decision. The double coupons and points program made Ralphs unique from all the other stores in the L.A. area. But now that they're doing away with the program Ralphs is no longer unique. Their big reveal obviously will be lower prices. But there are tons of other stores with lower prices and better quality products such as Sprout's, where I've started doing almost all of my shopping. I also have been going to Vons/Pavilions a lot more because of their Just 4 U program, which is great. I've saved more with that program than I ever saved at Ralphs. Plus Vons/Pavilions has great coupons every week in their weekly circulars. I feel as though they have a better handle on what customers want than Ralphs does now. I also used the Ralphs pharmacy just so I could get 50 points for every prescription, but now that the points program is being eliminated, I'll be going to a pharmacy that gives points, such as CVS, for prescriptions or Target for $4 generics.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 26, 2012

I dont own a car. I shop at Ralph's as it is in walking distance...so??? why do I need gas credits?? Thankfully there is a Pavillion's within the same distance...in marina del rey...bye bye Ralph's..you dont care about us...

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 27, 2012

Ralph's lost our business about 3 months ago with Vons having better weekly sales. We use to spend $120 to $150 per week at Ralphs, now we shop at Vons 90% of the time 10% at Sprouts.
Good bye Ralphs!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 27, 2012

As consumers I understand the frustration, change sucks no matter what side of the issue you are on. But consumers need to understand that they are more likely to receive better pricing on across the board, when chains like Ralphs arent forced to honor a double coupon. The savings on operations and the time it takes to process these coupons costs, somewhere down the line you are paying the freight. Dont kid yourself if you think this isnt the case.
Ultimately Ralphs has chosen to address a very real concern in the US and especially California, escalating gas prices. If you take the bus, walk or ride a bike, yes you lose out. But you are the minority; sorry. But being able to parlay your grocery expenses into some additional savings at the pump is a timely promotion. Understand, gas prices are likely to go higher before they go lower. You need only suck up some the garbage on the local and national news to understand the issues relative to this.
Since most retailers make on average 1.5-2.0 cents for every dollar we spend, they are all in the same boat. The one who wins will likely be serving your needs for service and convenience. They have no other "margin" to offer. So while you think you are saving more money at other stores, you should look deeper. Its not likely what you think it is, and when you get comfortable with whatever it is, it will change. Its just the nature of the business.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Apr 12, 2012

I like the way you think! People need to think long term not short. I think this is a good business decision. RALPHS knows how tough the market share it. If this does'nt work many Union workers will be also shopping at WALMART and the .99 cent store. I'm putting all my chips on the table!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 28, 2012

I haven't shopped at Ralph's in a number of weeks.....I rarely shop there ......everything is so much higher; the quality of fruits and vegetables has deteriorated while the price has escalated.....I have options and I'll continue to shop elsewhere as I believe others have already done.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Mar 29, 2012

I am very disappointed in the decision to cancel the rewards program with cash back. I have looked forward to that check to apply to my order. I don't mind about them not doubling the manufacture coupons as I know that has to be costing them a bundle.

I don't like Shell gas either so I won't be using my points for gas. I will now have to look at Albertson's ads and Von's to see which store will have the best prices on the items that I buy. I am very disappointed!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Apr 1, 2012

I have the same complaints as a lot of other folks....the 10 cents a gallon off of Shell Oil is NO BARGAIN!! In my Los Angeles area neighborhood, Shell gas is $4.45 a gallon for regular, whereas the Arco we frequent in our neighborhood is $4.17 for regular. That is a 28 cent difference per gallon - so even with the 10 cent a gallon "savings" I would still be paying 18 cents a gallon more for my gas if I bought it at Shell. So...no use for that new Ralphs "perk" - and I lose my quarterly "cash back" coupon. And honestly, I am happy with the one bank credit card I have, and my bank debit card as a back-up. Don't need the added agrivation of another credit card....and that seems to be the only way to keep the quarterly "cash back" perk now.

Will now be paying much more attention to Ralphs, Vons/Pavillions, Albertsons and Sprouts weekly ads - ads that are put in our mailbox, as well as online. Will also be comparing the online e-coupons for each store. And...something I have not done in years - I will physically be doing comparison shopping in ALL of these different grocery stores in my neighborhood, and I have a feeling that I will be "spreading the wealth."

Joel (not verified)
on Apr 1, 2012

Stupidity at its best. Just shopped there this morning and did not see low prices across the board as they claim , bunch of lies.. they are at least 25% higher than Walmart's. I guess they did not learn their lesson a few years back when they lost a lot of long time customers when they canceled their double coupon policy. As far as the fuel rewards program, i agree with most of the readers. they know that almost nobody will take advantage of this because Shell stations are about .25 cents higher than everyone else's. What i will do this time is reward them by driving an extra mile and shop @ Walmart.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Apr 4, 2012

20 year customer GONE! I have a JONS/ 99 Cents Store up the street (walking distance), I drive past a VONS/ Dollar Tree to/ from work. I also drive past a PAVILLIONS/ 99 Cents Store coming hm. from work. I work right across the street from a Target. So you see Ralphs, I have options. There was a REASON I chose to shop with you...UNTIL NOW. I have PLENTY of other options too. Wouldn't want to be the CEO Ralphing their lunch over empty stores ~ ha-ha

BYE - BYE Ralphy!!

Dee Tallant (not verified)
on May 12, 2012

This is very unfortunate. I really liked Ralph's and purchased so much that the quarterly certificates were a godsend for us! We are a military family and with all things considered, I preferred Ralph's over our own Commissary. Having said that... there is no real reason for us to shop Ralph's anymore. Gas at our commissary and numerous gas stations is lower than most of the local Shell stations not to mention that our options are not that plentiful to start with. We also benefited from the double coupons which are now gone. There is a Vons the same distance as our Ralph's.

It is just really sad that they are choosing to endorse a program that, for all intents and purposes, is useless to a good majority of its customers. Unless you a Shell credit card and the rewards redemption, what real benefit is there? Gas on our base is around $4.08 today. Surrounding stations such as Arco, Costco etc are equal to or within a penny or 2. The nearest Shell station is currently sitting at $4.38. Even with the supposed 10 cent a gallon discount, it is still 20 cents over many of the competing stations! How is that supposed to help me save money? I would really love to hear the "logic" behind this.

Ralphs... I am afraid you have lost yet another customer. Perhaps after you get the quarterly reports since this went into effect reflect just exactly how many customers and how much in revenue you will be losing, you will rethink this ridiculous new "Rewards Program". I for one don't see any "reward" to it... instead of BS "sales" with a supposed sales price after using this card.... why not just "adjust" the selling price? And while I am on a rant, the sales need to be revamped or clarified apparently. Today I was at Ralph's picking up a few things and wanted to pick up some steaks for dinner. The New York Strip were supposedly on sale for $5.99 per pound. While going thru the them searching for the package that would best suit me I noticed something odd. I had found a multi pack with 4 NY Steaks for $10.77. Upon reviewing the label, it noted that the price per pound was $6.49 per pound. Really? There were several other packages that were labelled $6.99 a pound. Really? When brought to the attention of the meat department to ask them, they said it was because they were "thin cut". Really? How come the flyer doesn't mention that?

Basically sounds like Ralph's is swimming with water wings and one of them just got a whole and there is a big wave coming... a wave of dissatisfied customers leaving.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Jun 4, 2012

I actually switched to shopping at Ralph's (from Vons) when Ralph's implemented the rewards program with the quarterly cash certificates. If its gone for good, I'm heading back to Vons!

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